Nothing is wrong and no action needs to be taken by you.. Moose? The most common loadings have 300- to 500-grain projectiles, and they move fast enough to deliver some serious thump. But I do love my big bores , tough choice I had to indulge in all . The differences between 50 Beowulf vs 556 is the bullet diameter each cartridge fires, intended engagement ranges, and kinetic energy. I cant lie an AR with a .50 Beowulf complete upper, huge muzzle brake, optics, quad-rails, bipod, grenade launcher and other bells and whistles is more clumsy than a traditional AR carbine. Thats fair. An excellent candidate for some recoil therapy. The carbine, all fitted out with stuff, is a tad heavy. It is also the most important factor when computing kinetic energy. TNVC/NGI Giveaway: 15 winners with over $7000 worth of prizes!! Of the 3 deer Ive killed with mine, the furthest any have made it was one jump. Here's what you need to know about the .300 Blackout vs 7.6239. This however has been on it for quite some time. If the requirement is to zip through heavy vehicle glass, the .50 Beowulf will do that with minimal, if any, bullet deflection. I should have referenced the Stoner AR platform and not the AR-15 specifically. Feeding this beast is very doable. The performance of the 50 Beowulf drops off considerably past 150 yards as the bullet goes subsonic at this range. This not only allows use of a more standard bolt, but it also allows that bolt to have enough metal on it to withstand pressure over time and use.As for the launcher part, Alexander Arms offers both complete upper receivers and fully-built rifles. Its not new Ive owned my AA 50 wulf upper for 7 years or so. Between the two, the 50 would be a fun gun while the 300 can be used for hunting and such. My 300BLK suppressed sbr is a bit more than just a "fun gun" for me. One new winner* is announced every week! On an episode of some weapons show on the Military Channel, Mr. Alexander described the Beowulf as, a wrecking ball I wholeheartedly agree. thanks. Beowulf ammo comes in bullet weights ranging between 200 and 600 grains, though 335, 350, and 400 grain bullets are the most common. I think Ill be looking into getting one when theyve caught up to their orders. Dave brought his .50 Beowulf upper receiver, Stag Arms lower receiver assembly, and a lady friend, while Greg and I brought a complement of lowers ranging from basic to upscale. Once again we see that the .450 Bushmaster load outperforms all the others in terms of wind drift and the .50 Beowulf comes in last. . In contrast, the 458 can fire bullets between 200 to 600 grains with 250gr, 300gr, and 350gr being more common. The 223s flat trajectory and low recoil is great for varmint hunting, plinking, and target shooting; however, it lacks the kinetic energy needed for taking down larger animals like whitetail and hogs. In fact, at first glance the Beowulf looks like any other AR-15, save for a heavy barrel that looks like it was borrowed from a shotgun and a shoebox size tank-style muzzle brake pinned (in Massachusetts) to the muzzle. A straight-walled cartridge is necessary for deer hunting in Midwest states like Ohio, Iowa, Indiana, and Michigan while the bottlenecked design aids in reliable feeding. This upper and round look perfect for taking down some white tails and getting more use out of my AR than plinking or just in case shtf. Trying to decide between these 2 rifles for my next rifle. Fortunately, this problem is self-correcting. In contrast, the 458 SOCOM fires a 0.458 diameter bullet which is much more common as this bullet diameter is used by rounds such as the .45-70 Government, 458 Winchester Magnum, 450 Marlin, 460 Weatherby, and 458 Lott. Thats an attractive price for a box of first class, big bore hollow point cartridges. Its more of a blunt instrument, and should kill anything it hits. A metal grip frame, slide ports and a red dot cut are just some of the new features. The camera shake is the result of Dave standing too close to, and in perfect alignment with, the backwash from the muzzle brake. Brass lasts quite awhile. The ejection port is larger, of course, and theres a forward assist. As for factory ammunition, you can find a few different options like these.InceptorAmmunition offers a load using its ARX projectile. Its a heavy hitting, short range mag fed AR. Honestly if you reload, I think I would look at the 375 SOCOM, the power of the 458 SOCOM or the 50 Beuwolf, and the longer distances that you seem to want for hunting. No specific shipment information is available yet. They seriously need some professional customer service staff or at least a technical writer. Both 5.56 and 300 blackout have been extensively tested. The rush of hot gases is powerful enough to blow your hair back as effectively, but perhaps not as pleasantly, as a Trojan brand personal joy buzzer. The same ammo from Midway will be even cheaper when its in stock. some times I like to take my 300 blackout loaded with subs and do some stalking for deer it is great for 50-75 yd shots , other times I just like to go nuclear and take my wulf or socom and hammer what ever I shoot . On the plus side, it is a high quality stainless steel barrel. My short barrel 308 is my range toy/SHTF if needed rifle. I also hear tell that its a fine platform for traditional rounds such as the .243 Winchester. At 100 yards it sounded like they were getting hit with sledgehammers. Even energy at that distance is impressive. The 50 is the heaviest bullet of the three, but it has the lowest BC due to its design. A 300 grain .45 Govt bullet clocks in at about 1800 fps at the muzzle and 1500 fps at 100 yards, with energy of about 2200 and 1500 ft.-lb. A normalslug gun runs in at less than half of this price, and shoots ammunition thats commonly available so, you can have more fun, cheaper, than with this thing. Love to go to our farm and hit coyotes and feral dogs..rolls them up like a .22 does a soda can. The 450 Bushmaster dominates in terms of muzzle velocity as it leaves the barrel at a whopping 2,200 fps, which is 300 fps faster than the 458 SOCOM and 425 fps faster than the 50 Beowulf. Although it fires a lighter bullet, the 458 SOCOM has a maximum effective range of around 250 yards on large game while the less efficient bullet design of the Beowulf limits its effective range to 150 yards. I want to party with the stupid part of your brain. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/knitepoet/Hunting/bullet1.jpg, Heres the recovered slug, bullet is a 335 Ranier HP in my handloads @ 1812 MV, range was a lased 41 yards, deer dropped at the shot with one back leg kick As for knock-down power, 50 caliber bullets are second to none. If I wasnt clear, there is some sloppy customer service here but fortunately the people who actually designed and built the gun are top notch! Lancer mags are the best plastic mags. . Thanks for the replies. Typically, longer and heavier bullets will have a higher BC as they can resist wind drift more efficiently. 300 Blackout already has a massive fan base and a monstrous logistics machine behind the gun. The 50 Beowulf lists its maximum overall length as 2.25". There are more cartridge choices than any one person would ever need and compared to more traditional big game calibers, the ammo is very affordable. However, free recoil can be used to give a general idea of how hard a round kicks. Its not really a measurement of error, so much as an estimation of destruction. Recoil, while prodigious when compared to the light 5.56, is manageable. Standard mags should work. Just to make sure were all on the same page when it comes to the .50 Beowulf and its namesake, we all studied Beowulf in high school, right? I'm pleased with my 300 BLK, waiting on the stamp to put a rifle stock on it. The photo below also illustrates the other obvious difference between the 5.56 and the .50 Beowulf. I love the Wulf. But some shooters wanted morethey wanted more muzzle energy, more fps, more stopping power. This bullet is absolutely devastating to large game so long as your shot placement is on point. Would be doing an AR setup instead of a bolt action. Free recoil is dependent on bullet weight, rifle weight, muzzle velocity, and powder charge. Yep. Thanks again folks. And for those shooters who just want MORE, this trifecta of Thumper rounds can provide all the kinetic energy and recoil your heart could desire the 450 Bushmaster, 458 SOCOM, and 50 Beowulf. The same message included: Only a liberal would call it a (clip). In fact, outside of the first 100-yards, the differences are effective entirely negligible. Based off a 20mm case. And wait. This royally ticks off the monster's mom (yes, really), so Beowulf uses a giant sword to slay her, too. As noted, the straight-sided .50 Beowulf cartridge features a rebated rim the rim is narrower than the case. Theres no denying that the pairing of the AR-15 platform and the 223 Remington is an exceptional match. An AR by any other name will cause PSH in the faint of heart and rationality. You might recognize that name from another cartridge developed by Alexander Arms.So given the attributes were going to discuss, the Beowulf name seems entirely appropriate. 7.62x39 Rifles ; 7.62x39 Pistols . in this video we compare the 308 winchester. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. IF you didnt cancel the order it is being prepared for delivery or partial delivery. Add reloading to that, and there's not much the 50 Beowulf can't do. run off AR-10 platforms. Among others, this list includes cartridges like the .300 Blackout, the 6.8 Remington SPC (also known as the 6.8 SPC), the .450 Bushmaster, the .458 SOCOM and the .50 Beowulf. They have several other varieties too, as well as other sought after calibers, generally all for the same price. Littered with spent .22 casings. Later, to get the renewal on his man card, he has to travel somewhere to slay a dragon but is mortally wounded in the process. In terms of rifle availability, there are considerably more options for the 450 Bushmaster compared to the 458 SOCOM and 50 Beowulf. Jacketed 45 ACP bullets measure 0.451 in diameter while the 450 Bushmaster requires the slightly wider 0.452 diameter bullets. (Emphasis on OH yeahhhhh). Beowulf sounds cool, I wish they would SAAMI approve the thing so it could go into mass production though What's impressing me is the video shows an 8 inch hitting 700m. This and throw the BO at the bear to distract him while you dump him. The opposite is true, though. I have a question about your writing availability. Regardless of which cartridge you choose, make sure you get all your ammunition here at Ammo.com and get out to the range so you are always ready to defend freedom should the need arise. Its for when the Terminators come. But, Sir Isaac Newtown giveth as much as he taketh away. Since I can shoot +P .45-70 Grizzly and Buffalo Bore, and have more case capacity than the .50 Beowulf, the .45-70 is better in many respects as a big game gun. That upper costs $1,012 plus the cost of upgrades. Bill Alexander (the same guy who developed the .50 Beowulf) also designed the 6.5 Grendel to fit this same need in 2002. .50 Beowulf ballistics are similar to the venerable .45-70. We shot hollow points, but you can have your .50s with brass or lead solids or FMJ if you prefer. You cannot run a 243 Winchester through an AR-15. It looks odd, but it isnt. The .50 Beowulf is a rifle big-bore cartridge developed by Alexander Arms for use in a modified AR-15 rifle. The .50 Beowulfs rebated rim matches the rim of the common 7.6239 commie cartridge. At a glance, it looks like every other EBR on the range, but after the first shot, a crowd begins to gather. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Ammo selection is great in both super- and sub-sonic while being easy to find in basically every LGS. Pistol Buffer 5.0-8.5 oz. If I lived in a rifle deer zone Id own one because: 1. Lastly, the 450 Bushmaster fires 0.452 diameter bullets ranging between 158-300 grains while the 250 and 260 grain bullets are the most popular factory loads. Both the 350 Legend and 300 Blackout come in a wide variety of projectile weights and can come as both supersonic and subsonic varieties. Interestingly they also produce a cartridge using the Inceptor ARX 200-grain bullet. I say build both and have double the fun. Bullets fire by the 450 Bushmaster are also fired by three popular handgun cartridges, the 45 Colt, 454 Casull, and 460 S&W. A light 235 grain bullet in a .375 H&H cartridge offers much better range and energy, and a new bolt gun can be had in a good Winchester Model 70 for the same price as the loaded Beowulf upper. By the time your new upper arrives, youre going to be as excited as the time you had your first blind date with your first sure thing. Semi-automatic pistols for self-defense continue to be extremely popular, but there is a surprising amount of new double-stack 1911s and revolvers released this year. I got mine when they first came out. For shooters who live in AWB states, having Beowulf-only magazines may be an advantage. The round can cover more yards and keep velocity better than its heavier counterpart. The 50 Beowulf also has higher recoil. The bullet diameter is only slightly larger at 0.51". At that point, you are blurring the line between rifle and portable cannon. These three big bore cartridges give you the flexibility to turn a standard AR-15 into a deer hunting rifle, a semi-automatic hog slayer, and a heavy-hitting personal defense carbine all rolled up into one firearm. Thanks Phil in the great north west. The 450 Bushmaster and 50 Beowulf are both straight-walled cartridges while the 458 SOCOM has a slight shoulder. I got mine when they first came out. Sourcing reloading dies is fairly simple for each cartridge as Lee and Redding both have die sets for each caliber. Tried to edit the above post but it didnt take so Ill do it here. Only if I can get it in a pistol version. Hi I got A Davidson Defense Nitride Finish BCG 7.6239 for my complete upper pistol kit,So my bolt will work or not with both of them? Got it fresh in your mind? 50 Beowulf: JHP: 325: 2524: 1870: 50 Beowulf: XTP HP: 350: . .50 Beowulf.22 Nosler.45 Bushmaster.458 SOCOM; . Thank you for the details Accur81 now I can stop fantasizing about an AR-15 in .45-70 Government! Maybe half a box ought to re-balance the old Yin and Yang, Im thinking. The .45 caliber bullets are still plenty huge for knocking down a bison, grizzly, or anything else on the face of the Earth. Adapting new calibers to the AR-15 rifle is nothing new, and cartridges like the 300 Blackout, 224 Valkyrie, 6.8 SPC, and 6.5 Grendel have all been moderately successful. Bear hunting or protection? In this caliber comparison article, we are going to take a detailed look at both the 300 AAC Blackout and the 308 Winchester. As a . I would start with a 300 blackout first as I think it is more versatile than the Beowulf. Big game hunters and passionate reloaders will award it five. Grendel and his cranky mom have already been dispatched by the Beowulf, but theres still plenty of perfectly good applications for this thumper. The .50 Beowulf cartridge is based on the .50 Action Express, a large pistol cartridge thats the source of the Desert Eagles legendary power and even more legendary recoil. While were wishing, make mine belt-fed with HE rounds. Overall, if you want one gun that will break down into an extremely modest space that you can carry around unnoticed and has multi-caliber capability, this is the gun for you. There are many different kinds of pistols out there, and whats right for one person might not be right for you. THE GOD DAMNED NEW GUN JAMMED ON THE FIRST ROUND. The 50 Beowulf lists its maximum overall length as 2.25. Michigan just changed the law allowing me to use this for deer in my zone. Sure there are the other two members of the big three but only the Beowulf actually matches the ballistics of the .45-70 and if you have a job that needs a big hammer, why not use the biggest, meanest, most powerful hammer in the toolbox? Hogs? Not enough accuracy? I bet you also think a bullet button makes an AR full auto lol. It performed without a single hiccup, no matter what lower parts and magazines we used. I donno, it sounds like perfect hog medicine to me. cant wait to read your next review. However, custom ammo manufacturers often make their own 50 Beowulf loads under the metric designation 12.7x42mm. 458 SOCOM, and 50 Beowulf exist. Unadulterated overkill for self-defense, not quite accurate enough for high power target shooting and possibly too much gun for whitetails or muleys, it seems like a rifle with limited utility. Must the base of brass casings be small (on the order of .30 caliber) in order to be compatible with the AR-15 platform? 3600gr bullet, 38,000ft lb. And the extra mass probably helped to mitigate recoil. However, the .50 Beowulf is a straight case, the .458 SOCOM uses a slightly bottlenecked case design. I ordered some on the 21st and recived them on the 25th. We didnt fling a ton of lead downrange, so I cant represent our testing as a full 500 round shoulder crushing shoot em up. Felt recoil will differ from shooter to shooter and is dependent on shooting position, stance, and the firearm being used. Many shooters and hunters, particularly those who prefer Modern Sporting Rifles, would probably agree that the .300 Blackout and 7.6239 are both effective cartridges that offer certain advantages over the .223 Remington. The 450 Bushmaster (or 450 BM) was developed by Tim LeGendre of LeMAG Firearm. I like both those rounds a lot. Hi all I ordered a AA .50 Beowulf upper, and reloading dies and 150 Hornady 300gr FTX (flex tip, expanding) to start with . Anyway, a Scandinavian badass, Beowulf, comes along to kick the monster's butt, successfully I might add. Theres a reason why this class of rifle cartridges are known as thumper rounds. In contrast, a 10 round Beowulf magazine, which is identical in all respects to a 30-round 5.56 mag except for the feed lips, may be legal. Id sure like to have a few of the old big-bore double-rifles. I have never been able to shoot more than 4 rounds in a row with out the gun jamming. I use a Leupold 14 shotgun scope and its plenty of magnification. Too much? Why a .50 Beowulf? In contrast, the 450 Bushmaster and 458 SOCOM have an effective range of 250 yards for deer and 150 yards for elk. I dont see really see the niche where this cartridge fits in: Once you get over the giggle/fun factor, is there any application that this would really excel in? Double check. As I write this, five separate Sharknado movies have been released, and Ive yet to see this rifle and cartridge featured in any of them. Would have to assume its at max powder. Finally got to the range and guess what. Hogzilla? I acknowledge that .450 & .458 are also great choices for hunting in North America, it really comes down to personal preference, like many gun purchases we all consider so hold the hate mail lol (and go buy a fifty cal!!!!) I can see it now on my shopping list 1 box of Hornady Pink Mist Beowulf. Ssshhhhhh. But still impressive. Enter the big bore, semi-auto rifle, that doesnt need a ton of range. .50 Beowulf ballistics are similar to the venerable .45-70. In other words, it hits hard. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. We often hear about the average self-defense scenario, but the truth is every encounter is unique. Have both. Customer service sucks. If they do what mold sizing deis etc and of course powder type and weight I have used different lowers with the same result. Most of the excess weight will be forward, as this carbine starts out muzzle-heavy and only gets worse from there. What am I missing? All three rounds are generally loaded to similar pressures, but the 450 Bushmaster is the only SAAMI certified cartridge of the three with a listed maximum pressure of 38,500 psi. Sure, the upper kit makes it muzzle heavy, but that doesnt make it too clumsy to handle. They also make other conversion kits for .40 S&W, .45, .300 Blackout, 6.5, 6.8, as well as some others. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It should be noted that none of these cartridges would be described as having low recoil. If not, I would much prefer an upper in .45-70 Government over .50 Beowulf. Why does it belong in your AR collection? I havent had a chance to shoot at 200 yards yet but it performed great at 100 and 150. I would also guess that .45-70 Government factory ammunition is less expensive than .50 Beowulf as well. I reload so either won't be a problem. However, this massive case capacity is needed for the massive 0.458" diameter bullets that the SOCOM round fires.
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