The Stainless Steel Bison that just came today is going to me my favorite! Serial number- D81019. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! If the shooter was a little rough with the gun, and dropped the hammer into the Half Cock Notch, the tip of the trigger could break off, radically altering the sight picture. A recruit, playing (Hopefullly with an UN-Loaded revolver!) Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Tsk tsk. An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. There are no exceptions, your payment will be returned to the account it was drawn on. The 1858 Remington has safety notches cut into the cylinder in between the nipples, giving the un-cocked hammer a place to rest thats not on a percussion cap. On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. Code P014. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Someone asked why they are called .44s if they take a .452 or .454 ball. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. Pietta, Steel Frame Revolver, 5.5" Oct. Barrel, Black Powder, Oklahoma Leather Belt, Black Leather Holster Belt, Oklahoma Leather Belt, Brown Leather Holster Belt. 1412 West Reelfoot Avenue This "Gated" conversion cylinders will convert your 1858 Remington Pietta to .45 Long Colt. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. Hardened, blued steel. The exception is, obviously, serialized items. And you thought the New York reload was a modern invention? The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. I have no need to expound on the function or the pure fun of these weapons, in that I have 4 (Pietta)1858 Remingtions already. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. These parts are not guaranteed to fit older Pietta models, other manufacturer's guns, or original firearms. See "More Info" for details. Quantity . I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? By March, 1872, the Revolving Carbine had been adapted to use modern cartridges, offered for $25, chambered in .36 Long rimfire. Fordyce Beals knew what he was doing. He then shoots it. surrounded by 9 .44 chambers. It was a great shooter, but unfortunately it rusted up while in storage. 1858 Remington Revolver Spare Pietta Black Powder Cylinder, Steel .44 Cal. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. Beautiful Firearm The barrel is 7 1/2". Add 3% to the total cost for such purchases. Code 433ST. Ive made it a long way by doing what CSMs tell me to do, so I shoot it at least once a month. could be in your future, you would want a steel frame pistol instead of brass. No feeder, but a scoped .243 at 75 yards (distance to the tree line) no one calls it hunting. Enter Your Email to Receive Exclusive Discounts and Promotions, EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. Youd use either #10 or #11, the 11s being the larger. Any rifle, pistol or shotgun made prior to that majic date is paper free. With heavier charges, its good to go when trying to put Bambis mother in the freezer. Will not fit .31 or .36 caliber cylinders. REcoil is essentially nonexistent. Ive got an Uberti rep with the brass frame, so loading above 25g of triple eff aint recommended. For Civil War pistoleros the best way to rapidly reload any cap-and-ball revolver, including the 1858, was to carry several of them, like this other guya Confederate guerilla from Missouri. Nicks a real tech wizard. Dixie Austrian Lorenz. ATTENTION CUSTOMERS: When ordering firearms online please note that there is an additional 3 percent charge that will be added to all firearms purchases for credit card transactions. . .44 CALIBER. Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. So feel free to experiment. 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It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. The manufacture of firearms by Remington goes back to 1816 when Eliphalet Reniington produced his first guns in Ilion, New York. He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. Cleaned properly, and loaded properly, a Remington Style Percussion Revolver, can be as reliable as a modern Cartridge gun. by morgan jones on 9/2/2014 4:22:38 PM. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Youre reloaded. Youre only hunting if you sharpen a stick and use it as a spear. WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and reproductive harm. You have entered an incorrect email address! PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). Ive been thinking of getting one since I recently watched Pale Rider. Only Fordyce was very real born in Massachusetts and died in Connecticut. Description Designed to compliment our Civil War holsters. 1 choice when it comes to caring for any muzzleloader. Army Generals, The Gentleman in charge of the War Appropriations Dept., and LOTS of High Ranking Army Officers! I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. The standard pistol primer is an 11, but if it does not fit tightly and has to be squeezed to make it stay on, you have the wrong size. Looks a lot like the Ruger. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. Do not try to turn a century-and-a-half old black powder design into a modern magnum. . Hes got an 1858 Remington in each hand, and looks like at least two more on his belt. A home run! (not by much) sInce they use the .44 barrel boared for .22s, the strength is well past ridiculous, even for the .22 Magnum. Thanks in advance. Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont safety notches. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. What size/type primers are best? 12" Oct. Barrel Buffalo. EMF offers this piece of history in your choice of brass, steel or stainless steel. Description Pietta Hammer (1858) . Easier to load and clean. Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) Its trigger was lightened for target use, so its ridiculously easy to fire. In the case of unfinished recievers, like when you buy a flat pressed AK reciever in the mail, it becomes a firearm for the purposes of the ATF as soon as one puts the first bend in it (at least thats the criteria for a prohibited person case to be made, such as a felon) Buying a conversion cylinder would be exactly the same boat legally, as ordering up a mil spec conversion kit for a semi-auto AK, its legal to have, legal to buy, legal to sell, but completely illegal to install. Many, many thanks for making this information public. There is research indicating that chain fires are probably caused by sparks getting under loose-fitting percussion caps. Nazwa: 1858 Remington New Model Army Stainless Steel .44 Wykoczenie: Inox (Stainless Steel) Kaliber: .44 Typ zamka: Kapiszonowy Bben: 6-cio komorowy Wash hands thoroughly after exposure. A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. I might be wrong about this! Serves the same purpose as putting lube over the ball as described in the article, but with less mess, and assists in proper compression with lighter loads. So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. Personally, I use wonder wads, commercially available round pieces of felt soaked in oil and wax (or you can make your own), between the ball and the powder. I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. Item. I can put up to 60 grains into each chamber, though I usually use 40. Designed to be the future of long range revolvers, it's top strap and full steel frame design made this revolver one of the strongest and most sought after available. WARNING: Black powder firearms cannot be shipped to Canada or New Jersey, See Footnotes for the following locations: *New York City; Bronx, Kings, Nassau, New York, Queens, and Richmond; **Illinois - ***Michigan. 1858 Remington, .44cal, Steel Frame, 8" Oct. Barrel. Dont ever get law and logic mixed up; they have nothing in common. Traditions 1858 Remington New Army .44 Cal.Steel Frame, 12" Oct. Barrel Buffalo. Fingers on triggers, especially that Civil War vet. I shot it once in the neck using a 200 grain 45 acp fmj bullet and about 37 grains of 777. At the poor fellows Autopsy! Having an issue with my pietta 44 cal. 1858 Remington Army Percussion Revolvers. Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. No. Just my opinion. Made by Hornady. Fine. It just looks cooler (IMO) than the navy, walker, or dragoon. This is however, my first Bison (Buffalo). This gun features a tapered octagon barrel, steel frame, brass trigger guard, 6-shot cylinder, and two-piece walnut grips. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). ). even the center fire 45-70 and the 45 colt cowboy rounds are NOT considered a fire arm, due to the FACT that they use slower burning black powder to fire them! You could become the next Farinelliif youre lucky. 8" BARREL. Pietta 1858 Steel Remington Texas Buffalo/Bison Black Powder Target Revolver - .44 Caliber 12" Barrel Steel Frame w/ Blued Barrel - RGBT44 Pietta Out of Stock Sold out $429.00 Pietta 1858 New Model Army Black Powder Revolver - .44 Caliber - Stainless Frame & Barrel - RGS44 Pietta Out of Stock Sold out $499.00 It isnt the first C&B Revolver Ive bought, but the first one belongs to my son and he has it. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. It was Assistant District Attorney Ben Stone that shot LaHood. Range, of course, is quite limited. The shipping and customer service at Old South Firearms is unmatched! To sum up, if you want a gun that you can use for Years, Pass it onto your Son, or maybe even your Grandson, buy a steel framed Remington Style Revolver from Either Pietta, or A.Uberti & Son, and with due care and respect, the gun will last several lifetimes! Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. Get the latest information about new products, special deals, news, top-rated items, promotions and more! Stainless Steel Frame, 12" Oct. Barrel Buffalo << Previous in Traditions Performance Firearms Next in Traditions Performance Firearms >> Related Products Login to rate or review this product (2 Ratings, 1 Review) Average Rating: Beautiful Firearm morgan jones (CAPE CORAL, FL) 9/2/2014 3:22 PM 100% Wool, 50 per pack Designed to be the future of long range revolvers, it's top strap and full steel frame design made this revolver one of the strongest and most sought after available. Colt .36 with 21 grains. Dixie Cub, Super Cub and PA Rifles. I wound up selling it shortly thereafter. Dixie Double Barrel Shotguns. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. My days of reloading by the thousands are past, so a pair of these are a real find at less then $300 bucks. The lead ring around the chamber seems really tight. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. Please try another search, Tomahawks & Tomahawk Parts and Accessories, M1826 and M1836 Water's and Johnson Pistol, M1861 Special Musket (Colt,L.G. Code A434/ST36. Copyright 2021 B.A.C.O., All Rights Reserved. Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. percussion caps are NOT standard size. It is a black powder revolver with a 12-inch barrel. I carry a Sheriffs Model for Self Defense, every day! The Pistol was so designed, that the hammer when cocked, would suck back with it, the remnants of the cap just fired, which more often than not, would follow the principle of Gravity, so ably demonstrated by Sir Isaac Newton, and fall into the Yawning Gap, the cocked hammer revealed, So when the trigger was pressed for the next shot, there would be a sort of, Scrunch, sound, as the cap was chewed up and mashed by the falling hammer, effectivley jamming the revolver! It is recorded that William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody used an ivory-handled New Model Army .44, serial number 73,293, from 1863 until . Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. . . This was suggested by a good friend and serious black powder target shooter who has a couple of the 1858s. Black powder works best when it is compressed. This Howell Arms Conversion Cylinder will convert your stainless steel framed Pietta manufactured 1858 Remington Navy .36 caliber cap and ball replica revolver to shoot .38 Special cartridges using the .38 Special wadcutter heeled bullet or hollow base bullet. Our No. They fit just about any cap and ball firearm. The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. They are all excellent fit and finish. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. I have one of these which I bought after a whole lot of looking and reading. I have several cap-and-ball revolvers, all made by Pietta. But always remember that the original buffal0 rifles were all black powder cartridges. Pretty simple. I havent shot black powder in a long time. I got to fire a few cap and ball revolvers when on holiday in Italy. Actually percussion caps come in different sizes. The percussion caps are a standard size. About 200 ft-lbs Energy :D The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. I took 2 quick shots at about 70 yards (yes, too far, I know) one round hit its head, the deer dropped. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. For sale is a Uberti Model 1858 New stainless black powder revolver in .44 Cal black powder. (Of course, if you want the value of a gun to quadruple, just buy it from me and wait five years.) I load as follows: I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). Make loading cylinders fast and easy. Sounds like the name of a shady character lurking in the wisteria of some Flannery OConnor story, doesnt it? I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times.
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